Torc1 Racing Defy MX Lock On Grips (1/2 Waffle Soft Compound) (Blue) Compatible with 02-16 Honda CRF450R
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Bought the dual kit. First thing I noticed when installing it was how huge this thing is on the side of a helmet. Like, embarrassingly large. Paired to the phone no problem, streamed music...all good. BUT, that’s some pretty basic stuff which literally every headset does now so no big deal there. After that, I struggle to think of a single thing that worked well and reliably. Off the top of my head:
-The app is shockingly slow, making it almost unusable
-Voice commands are useless at highway speed
-The Mesh Intercom feature definitely works but has to be setup every time you turn the thing on, adds a weird digitalized sound to the persons voice versus Bluetooth Intercom, GOBBLES battery life (we can’t get more than 6 hours tops), and unfortunately was the main reason I purchased this model in the first place
-Trying to find the Mesh Intercom button with a gloved hand is like trying to find a Tic-Tac under your seat while driving.
- Etc. Etc. Etc.
Yesterday I rode with some of my buddies who have the mesh Cardo Pack talks and used one of their headsets. I’d say it took me about 2 miles to realize I made the wrong choice in the 30K. We turned them on, and we were talking. Just like that. Voice was clear, background noise was gone, music was where I wanted it to be, all was good.
Simply put, I’ve got no option but to send these back. I have zero interest in playing “beta-tester” for Sena while they try to figure these things out.
If you're in the market to upgrade to the 30k there is absolutely no reason to do so. If you're in the market for a new communicator then get the 20s, understood?
I come from using the 20s and I love it, it showed me the wonders of having music, phone, gps, and the Google Assistant WHILE I'm using intercom with other riders.
The keyword is WHILE.
The 30k will make you drop intercom if you need to do anything on your phone.
They will say that it works if everyone had a 30k but that is really an unrealistic and downright stupid suggestion, and people with the 20s won't need the downgrade.
I have a 20s and a 30k and there is no way in hell I will get rid of the 20s to check if it works with just 30ks.
I have not forgotten what it is to listen to music or navigation while being on an intercom conversation with my friend on the road.
I would give this zero stars and burn these if I could. Sena took a step backwards with the 30K. Unless everybody you ride with has a 30K you can forget about listening to music and talking to them. The audio multi tasking only works with the Mesh technology. A Sena rep confirmed that the bluetooth module from the 30K is actually the same module as the SMH10 so you loose the audio multitasking with a standard bluetooth intercom connection.
Upgrading from my 20S was a big mistake.
The 30 does not work as well the battery does not last as long and after all the hype from their sales reps out the field to the dealerships this is a piece of garbage!!!!
The voice command never works then jog dial is cheap it difficult to work with with bare hands let alone while riding
For the price they’re asking for this thing you would think it would be superior to All previous models !
Back to the design board for SENA
The battery life is good, the speakers lack base, but are loud enough to hear even with a aftermarket exhaust on your bike. The voice command function is a joke and does not work as advertised, it doesn't recognize the commands you give it...it is as bad as Siri when it first came out.
On one of my iPhones I have to go through the pairing process every time.
Price: US $24.25
Rating: 4.5 / 5.0 from 1 Reviews
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TORC1 RACING, an organization founded by individuals with passion above and beyond for the racing industry, their mission is to provide high quality, economical performance products for your dirt bike, ATV and street bike.
From grips, levers, shifters, brake pedals, foot pegs, their products are made to the highest of quality, the lightest in weight, and most importantly, affordability to the customer.100% slip-free performance guaranteed.Simple installation and removal wit
spec throttle tube included with 22 point adjustment to put the waffle pattern right where you need it.Six snap-on multi-adjust throttle cams included in each 4-stroke or 2-stroke/mini bike kit.No need to purchase any throttle cams separately.CNC-machined
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TORC1 RACING, an organization founded by individuals with passion above and beyond for the racing industry, their mission is to provide high quality, economical performance products for your dirt bike, ATV and street bike.
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CRF250R 04-
I purchased this product after a generally happy experience with the 20S. I was very disappointed in this product and from the lack of support from Sena.
Pros:
- Mesh just works. But it kills battery life too.
- There are audio mixer controls in the app.
- Haven't tested in depth yet, but bluetooth audio quality may be improved from the 20S.
Cons:
- Increased startup time. All the beeps and notifications are different from the 20S for no apparent reason. Starts off by saying "Preparing headset" - my 20S said "Hello!," a little nicer...
- The 30K product page prominently shows a docking station. There is no docking station included in the package. Yeah, it's not on the "included in the box" sheet, but when there is no product page linked and no information about buying the charger separately on the website, that's a bit misleading.
- The app sucks. If the FM radio is on for example, changing any setting will jump to the FM radio afterward instead of keeping the settings window open. There is also a large delay between actions.
- Voice control is as worthless as it was on the 20S.
- Coming from the 20S, the "shark fin" thing is extremely annoying. I need to change how to operate the volume. With gloves on, it is not nearly as easy as the 20S was. The fin gets in the way of rapid control.
- The mesh button is difficult to operate with the antenna down. I can understand how this is intentional but with gloves on it is harder to release the antenna than it was for the 20S.
- One of the units was defective. The jog dial was not manufactured well and would stick while rotating. This would cause the button to be stuck (and do a press and hold action), or just not work at all, or have inconsistent response so I couldn't feel if I pressed it.
- The other unit was defective. Not sure if it was the base or the unit, but the microphone usually doesn't work and will cut in and out.
- Dealing with support about these issues was awful. Spent more time verifying purchase for a product that hasn't even been on the market for a tenth of its warranty period than actually resolving the problem. After over a week and still not having an RMA number (in fact not having any contact), I returned the product.
I might try again as my friend used one of the headsets and at least for listening to the rest of us on rides (but unable to speak back without cutting out repeatedly), enjoyed the unit. I guess what people say about Sena and new product releases is true.
Product information
Technical Details
| Manufacturer | Torc1 Racing |
|---|---|
| Brand | Torc1 Racing |
| Model | Torc1 Racing Defy MX Lock On Grips |
| Item Weight | 2 pounds |
| Package Dimensions | 11 x 6 x 3 inches |
| Item model number | 3750-0302 |
| Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
| Manufacturer Part Number | 3750-0302 |
| OEM Part Number | 110170 |
| Vehicle Service Type | Dirt bike, All-terrain-vehicles, Bike |
Additional Information
| ASIN | B076BK5SFP |
|---|---|
| Best Sellers Rank | #3,187,618 in Automotive (See Top 100 in Automotive) #5,318 in Powersports Grips |
| Date First Available | October 10, 2017 |
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